“Tarde, pero seguro” is something I like to tell myself whenever I put off doing something for a long amount of time. No particular reason for waiting so long, just laziness. Anyways, in my first Diálogos Transatlánticos post I talked about the exchange between Felipe González and Álvaro Uribe. One thing I had forgotten to mention was that Uribe was accompanied by his own cheerleading squad: former Colombian presidents Andrés Pastrana and Ernesto Samper. But enough of the tangent…
Ernesto Zedillo didn’t really say much during the panel, but he did make a point about 2005 being remembered as the year that multilateralism failed miserably. He mentioned specifically the WTO Conference in Hong Kong and how the U.S., Japan, and Europe still refuse to lower their massive farm subsidies.
Henry Kissinger was at a clear linguistic disadvantage against his fellow panelists. At one point he acknowledged this by saying that they were speaking with such strength and eloquence that they were overriding the translators. That and the fact that he was interrupted three times by random protesters in the hall calling him a war criminal and a murderer stacked the odds against him, but he still came up with some good insights. When asked by the moderator,Baltasar Garzón, what his thoughts were on U.S. foreign policy, he started by saying that until World War II there had been no international strategy implemented by the U.S. Every strategy after that has been a temporary measure. It is only recently that the government has had to come up with a continuous foreign policy.
He also made the point that foreign policy has been formed around the idea of the nation-state. The U.S. still conducts foreign policy as a nation-state, but a “historical” evolution in foreign policy from nation-state interests to multilateralism has happened in Europe. Europe is trying to conduct its foreign policy in a multilateral way, thinking of everyone’s interests instead of just a single country.
Kissinger also made some comparisons on the foreign policy styles of China and the Middle East. He equated China’s style to Europe in the 19th century, as balances in power between nation-states. He then proceeded to equate foreign policy in the Middle East to Europe in the 17th century, characterized by religious warfare. This got a sort of matter-of-fact reaction from the crowd.
When asked about how the status of Latin America, Kissinger basically defended the U.S. in saying that there are some mismanagements in Latin America that must be dealt by its people. He said it was senseless to blame everything on the U.S. That produced mixed reactions in the audience. At that point it was clear a lot of people in the audience were thinking “Well, not all, but a substantial amount can definitely be blamed on the American government.”
The panel ended in a mildly humurous tone. Kissinger joked about how it must have been gutwrenching for Garzón to invite him to the panel (they’re not exactly on good terms. Click here for more details). Zedillo praised Garzón’s “poder de convocatoria”, summoning power, in being able to get so many important people to speak at NYU during his time here. It all ended quite nicely.
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